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Our answer is <math>-\frac{65}{8\cdot 15}=-\frac{13}{24}</math>, thus <math>13+24=\boxed{037}</math>. | Our answer is <math>-\frac{65}{8\cdot 15}=-\frac{13}{24}</math>, thus <math>13+24=\boxed{037}</math>. | ||
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+ | ==Solution 2== | ||
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+ | Let <math>\log_a b = x</math> and <math>\log_b c=y</math>, where <math>x,y>0</math>. Then, it is obvious that <math>log_c a = \frac{1}{xy}</math>. | ||
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+ | We first focus on the first equality: <math>\log_a b = 5 \log_b{ac^4}</math>. This may be simplified using our logarithmic properties: | ||
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+ | <cmath>x = 5(\log_b a + \log_b c^4)</cmath> | ||
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+ | <cmath>x = 5(\frac{1}{x} + 4y)</cmath> | ||
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+ | <cmath>x = \frac{5}{x} + 20y.</cmath> | ||
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+ | Now, let's focus on the last expression: note that, | ||
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+ | <cmath>3 \log_c{a^2b} = 3 (2 \log_c a + \log_c b) = 6 \left(\frac{1}{xy}\right) + \frac{3}{y}.</cmath> | ||
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+ | We can equate all of these expressions: | ||
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+ | <cmath>x = \frac{5}{x} + 20y = 6 \left(\frac{1}{xy}\right) + \frac{3}{y}.</cmath> | ||
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+ | Multiplying all expressions by <math>xy</math> gives us | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^2y = 5y + 20xy^2 = 6+3x.</cmath> | ||
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+ | Now, from our first equality we obtain | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^2 y = 5y + 20xy^2.</cmath> | ||
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+ | Since <math>y \ne 0</math>, we may safely divide by <math>y</math>: | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^2 = 5+20xy</cmath> | ||
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+ | <cmath>y = \frac{x^2-5}{20x}.</cmath> | ||
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+ | From the first and last expressions we have: | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^2y = 6+3x</cmath> | ||
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+ | <cmath>y= \frac{6+3x}{x^2}.</cmath> | ||
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+ | Equating our expressions for <math>y</math> gives | ||
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+ | <cmath> \frac{x^2-5}{20x}=\frac{6+3x}{x^2}</cmath> | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^4 - 5x^2 = 120x+60x^2.</cmath> | ||
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+ | Since <math>x \ne 0</math>, we may safely divide by <math>x</math>: | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^3 - 5x = 120 + 60x</cmath> | ||
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+ | <cmath>x^3 - 65x-120=0.</cmath> | ||
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+ | By Vieta's formulas, we must have <math>r_1r_2+r_2r_3+r_1r_3 = -65</math> and <math>r_1r_2r_3 = 120</math>. Dividing the former by the latter gives | ||
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+ | <cmath>\frac{1}{r_1}+\frac{1}{r_2}+\frac{1}{r_3} = -\frac{65}{120} = -\frac{13}{24}</cmath> | ||
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+ | and hence <math>m+n = 13+24 = \boxed{037}</math>. | ||
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+ | ~FIREDRAGONMATH16 |
Latest revision as of 10:09, 8 July 2022
Problem
Let . Assume the value of has three real solutions . If , where and are relatively prime positive integers, find .
Solution
Let . Then and . From this, we have the system
Substituting the first equation into the second, we obtain
Plugging this into the third equation yields .
Thus, . Note that our three real roots multiply to . However, since , we need to multiply by , so our is
We need . Using vieta’s and making sure we count for each factor of we divided off, we have .
Our answer is , thus .
Solution 2
Let and , where . Then, it is obvious that .
We first focus on the first equality: . This may be simplified using our logarithmic properties:
Now, let's focus on the last expression: note that,
We can equate all of these expressions:
Multiplying all expressions by gives us
Now, from our first equality we obtain
Since , we may safely divide by :
From the first and last expressions we have:
Equating our expressions for gives
Since , we may safely divide by :
By Vieta's formulas, we must have and . Dividing the former by the latter gives
and hence .
~FIREDRAGONMATH16