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Problem

Let $P(x) = x^2 - 3x - 9$ . A real number $x$ is chosen at random from the interval $5 \le x \le 15$ . The probability that $\left\lfloor\sqrt{P(x)}\right\rfloor = \sqrt{P(\left\lfloor x \right\rfloor)}$ is equal to $\frac{\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} + \sqrt{c} - d}{e}$ , where $a$ , $b$ , $c$ , $d$ , and $e$ are positive integers. Find $a + b + c + d + e$ .

Solution 1

Table of values of $P(x)$ :

$\begin{align*} P(5) &= 1 \\ P(6) &= 9 \\ P(7) &= 19 \\ P(8) &= 31 \\ P(9) &= 45 \\ P(10) &= 61 \\ P(11) &= 79 \\ P(12) &= 99 \\ P(13) &= 121 \\ P(14) &= 145 \\ P(15) &= 171 \\ \end{align*}$

In order for $\lfloor \sqrt{P(x)} \rfloor = \sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}$ to hold, $\sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}$ must be an integer and hence $P(\lfloor x \rfloor)$ must be a perfect square. This limits $x$ to $5 \le x < 6$ or $6 \le x < 7$ or $13 \le x < 14$ since, from the table above, those are the only values of $x$ for which $P(\lfloor x \rfloor)$ is an perfect square. However, in order for $\sqrt{P(x)}$ to be rounded down to $P(\lfloor x \rfloor)$ , $P(x)$ must be less than the next perfect square after $P(\lfloor x \rfloor)$ (for the said intervals). Now, we consider the three cases:

Case $5 \le x < 6$ :

$P(x)$ must be less than the first perfect square after $1$ , which is $4$ , i.e.:

$1 \le P(x) < 4$ (because $\lfloor \sqrt{P(x)} \rfloor = 1$ implies $1 \le \sqrt{P(x)} < 2$ )

Since $P(x)$ is increasing for $x \ge 5$ , we just need to find the value $v \ge 5$ where $P(v) = 4$ , which will give us the working range $5 \le x < v$ .

$\begin{align*} v^2 - 3v - 9 &= 4 \\ v &= \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2} \end{align*}$

So in this case, the only values that will work are $5 \le x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2}$ .

Case $6 \le x < 7$ :

$P(x)$ must be less than the first perfect square after $9$ , which is $16$ .

$\begin{align*} v^2 - 3v - 9 &= 16 \\ v &= \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2} \end{align*}$

So in this case, the only values that will work are $6 \le x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2}$ .

Case $13 \le x < 14$ :

$P(x)$ must be less than the first perfect square after $121$ , which is $144$ .

$\begin{align*} v^2 - 3v - 9 &= 144 \\ v &= \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2} \end{align*}$

So in this case, the only values that will work are $13 \le x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2}$ .

Now, we find the length of the working intervals and divide it by the length of the total interval, $15 - 5 = 10$ :

$\begin{align*} \frac{\left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2} - 5 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2} - 6 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2} - 13 \right)}{10} \\ &= \frac{\sqrt{61} + \sqrt{109} + \sqrt{621} - 39}{20} \end{align*}$

Thus, the answer is $61 + 109 + 621 + 39 + 20 = \fbox{850}$ .

Solution 2

Make the substitution $y=2x-3$ , so $P(x)=\frac{y^2-45}{4}.$ We're looking for solutions to $\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=\sqrt{\frac{\lfloor{y\rfloor}^2-45}{4}}$ with the new bounds $y\in{[7,27]}$ . Since the left side is an integer, it must be that $\frac{\lfloor{y\rfloor}^2-45}{4}$ is a perfect square. For simplicity, write $\lfloor{y\rfloor}=a$ and $a^2-45=4b^2\implies{(a-2b)(a+2b)=45}.$ Since $a-2b<a+2b$ , it must be that $(a-2b,a+2b)=(1,45),(3,15),(5,9)$ , which gives solutions $(23,11),(9,3),(7,1)$ , respectively. But this gives us three cases to check:

Case 1: $\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=11$ .

In this case, we have $11\leq{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}}<12\implies{y\in{[23,\sqrt{621})}}.$ Case 2: $\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=3$ .

In this case, we have $3\leq{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}}<4\implies{y\in{[9,\sqrt{109})}}.$ Case 3: $\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=1$

In this case, we have $1\leq{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}}<2\implies{y\in{[7,\sqrt{61})}}.$ To finish, the total length of the interval from which we choose $y$ is $27-7=20$ . The total length of the success intervals is $(\sqrt{61}-7)+(\sqrt{109}-9)+(\sqrt{621}-23)=\sqrt{61}+\sqrt{109}+\sqrt{621}-39,$ which means the probability is $\frac{\sqrt{61}+\sqrt{109}+\sqrt{621}-39}{20}.$ The requested sum is $\boxed{850}$ .

Solution 3 (Graphing)

It's definitely possible to conceptualize this problem visually, if that's your thing, since it is a geometric probability problem. Let $A = \left\lfloor\sqrt{P(x)}\right\rfloor$ and $B = \sqrt{P(\left\lfloor x \right\rfloor)}$ . The graph of $A$ and $B$ will look like this, with $A$ having only integral y-values and $B$ having only integral x-values:

As both $A$ and $B$ consist of a bunch of line segments, the probability that $A = B$ is the "length" of the overlap between the segments of $A$ and $B$ divided by the total length of the segments of $B$ .

Looking at the graph, we see that $A$ and $B$ will overlap only when $B$ is an integer. Specifically, each region of overlap will begin when $\sqrt{P(x)}\ = k, 5 \le x \le 15$ has solutions for integral $k$ in the range of $A$ , which consists of the integers $1-13$ , and end when $A$ jumps up to its next y-value.

Using the quadratic formula, we see that the start point of each of these overlapping segments will be the integral values of $\frac{3 + \sqrt{45 + 4k^2}}{2}$ for $k$ in the specified range, meaning $45 + 4k^2$ must be a perfect square. Plugging in all the possible values of $k$ , we get $k = 1, 3, 11$ , corresponding to start points of $x = 5, 6, 13$ . As already stated, the endpoints will occur when $A$ jumps up to the next integer $k+1$ at each of these segments, at which point the x-value will be $\frac{3 + \sqrt{45 + 4(k+1)^2}}{2}$ . On the graph, the overlapping segments of $A$ and $B$ would be represented by the highlighted green segments below:

Taking the difference between this second x-value and the start point for each of our start points $x = 5, 6, 13$ and summing them will give us the total length of these green segments. We can then divide this value by ten (the total length of the segments of $B$ ) to give us the probability of overlap between $A$ and $B$ .

Doing so gives us:

$\frac{\left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2} - 5 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2} - 6 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2} - 13 \right)}{10} = \frac{\sqrt{61} + \sqrt{109} + \sqrt{621} - 39}{20}$

$\implies{61 + 109 + 621 + 39 + 20 = \fbox{850}}$ .

~ anellipticcurveoverq

~ johnxyz1 ( $\text\LaTeX \mathit{fixes}$ )

Solution 4

Note that all the "bounds" have to be less than the number+1, otherwise it wouldn't fit the answer format. Therefore, the answer is $\frac{3*3+\sqrt{9+4(4+9)}-10+\sqrt{9+4(16+9)}-12+\sqrt{9+4(144+9)}}{20} \implies \boxed{850}$

~Lcz

Video Solution

2011 AIME I #15

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 ==Problem==
-Let <math>P(x) = x^2 - 3x - 9</math>. A real number <math>x</math> is chosen at random from the interval <math>5 \le x \le 15</math>. The probability that <math>\lfloor\sqrt{P(x)}\rfloor = \sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}</math> is equal to <math>\frac{\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} + \sqrt{c} - d}{e}</math> , where <math>a</math>, <math>b</math>, <math>c</math>, <math>d</math>, and <math>e</math> are positive integers. Find <math>a + b + c + d + e</math>.
+Let <math>P(x) = x^2 - 3x - 9</math>. A real number <math>x</math> is chosen at random from the interval <math>5 \le x \le 15</math>. The probability that <math>\left\lfloor\sqrt{P(x)}\right\rfloor = \sqrt{P(\left\lfloor x \right\rfloor)}</math> is equal to <math>\frac{\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} + \sqrt{c} - d}{e}</math> , where <math>a</math>, <math>b</math>, <math>c</math>, <math>d</math>, and <math>e</math> are positive integers. Find <math>a + b + c + d + e</math>.
-==Solution==
+==Solution 1==
 Table of values of <math>P(x)</math>:
-<math>\begin{array*}
+<cmath>\begin{align*}
-P(5) = 1 \\
+P(5) &= 1 \\
-P(6) = 9 \\
+P(6) &= 9 \\
-P(7) = 19 \\
+P(7) &= 19 \\
-P(8) = 31 \\
+P(8) &= 31 \\
-P(9) = 45 \\
+P(9) &= 45 \\
-P(10) = 61 \\
+P(10) &= 61 \\
-P(11) = 79 \\
+P(11) &= 79 \\
-P(12) = 99 \\
+P(12) &= 99 \\
-P(13) = 121 \\
+P(13) &= 121 \\
-P(14) = 145 \\
+P(14) &= 145 \\
-P(15) = 171 \\
+P(15) &= 171 \\
-\end{array*}</math>
+\end{align*}</cmath>
-In order for <math>\lfloor \sqrt{P(x)} \rfloor = \sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}</math> to hold, <math>\sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}</math> must be an integer and hence <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math> must be a perfect square. This limits <math>x</math> to <math>5 < x < 6</math> or <math>6 < x < 7</math> or <math>13 < x < 14</math> since, from the table above, those are the only values of <math>x</math> for which <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math> is an perfect square. However, in order for <math>\sqrt{P(x)}</math> to be rounded down to <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math>, <math>P(x)</math> must not be greater than the next perfect square after <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math> (for the said intervals). Note that in all the cases the next value of <math>P(x)</math> always passes the next perfect square after <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math>, so in no cases will all values of <math>x</math> in the said intervals work. Now, we consider the three difference cases.
+In order for <math>\lfloor \sqrt{P(x)} \rfloor = \sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}</math> to hold, <math>\sqrt{P(\lfloor x \rfloor)}</math> must be an integer and hence <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math> must be a perfect square. This limits <math>x</math> to <math>5 \le x < 6</math> or <math>6 \le x < 7</math> or <math>13 \le x < 14</math> since, from the table above, those are the only values of <math>x</math> for which <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math> is an perfect square. However, in order for <math>\sqrt{P(x)}</math> to be rounded down to <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math>, <math>P(x)</math> must be less than the next perfect square after <math>P(\lfloor x \rfloor)</math> (for the said intervals). Now, we consider the three cases:
-Case <math>1</math>:
+Case <math>5 \le x < 6</math>:
-<math>5 < x < 6 \\</math>:
-<math>P(x)</math> must not be greater than the first perfect square after <math>1</math>, which is <math>4</math>. Since <math>P(x)</math> is increasing for <math>x > 5</math>, we just need to find where <math>P(x) = 4</math> and the values that will work will be <math>5 < x < \text{root}</math>.
-<math>\begin{array*}
+<math>P(x)</math> must be less than the first perfect square after <math>1</math>, which is <math>4</math>, ''i.e.'':
-x^2 - 3x - 9 = 4 \\
-x = \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2}
-\end{array*}</math>
-So in this case, the only values that will work are <math>5 < x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2}</math>.
+<math>1 \le P(x) < 4</math> (because <math>\lfloor \sqrt{P(x)} \rfloor = 1</math> implies <math>1 \le \sqrt{P(x)} < 2</math>)
-Case <math>2</math>:
+Since <math>P(x)</math> is increasing for <math>x \ge 5</math>, we just need to find the value <math>v \ge 5</math> where <math>P(v) = 4</math>, which will give us the working range <math>5 \le x < v</math>.
-<math>6 < x < 7 \\</math>:
-<math>P(x)</math> must not be greater than the first perfect square after <math>9</math>, which is <math>16</math>.
-<math>\begin{array*}
+<cmath>\begin{align*}
-x^2 - 3x - 9 = 16 \\
+v^2 - 3v - 9 &= 4 \\
-x = \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2}
+v &= \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2}
-\end{array*}</math>
+\end{align*}</cmath>
-So in this case, the only values that will work are <math>6 < x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2}</math>.
+So in this case, the only values that will work are <math>5 \le x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2}</math>.
-Case <math>3</math>:
+Case <math>6 \le x < 7</math>:
-<math>13 < x < 14 \\</math>:
-<math>P(x)</math> must not be greater than the first perfect square after <math>121</math>, which is <math>144</math>.
-<math>\begin{array*}
+<math>P(x)</math> must be less than the first perfect square after <math>9</math>, which is <math>16</math>.
-x^2 - 3x - 9 = 144 \\
-x = \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2}
-\end{array*}</math>
-So in this case, the only values that will work are <math>13 < x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2}</math>.
+<cmath>\begin{align*}
+v^2 - 3v - 9 &= 16 \\
+v &= \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2}
+\end{align*}</cmath>
+So in this case, the only values that will work are <math>6 \le x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2}</math>.
+Case <math>13 \le x < 14</math>:
+<math>P(x)</math> must be less than the first perfect square after <math>121</math>, which is <math>144</math>.
+<cmath>\begin{align*}
+v^2 - 3v - 9 &= 144 \\
+v &= \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2}
+\end{align*}</cmath>
+So in this case, the only values that will work are <math>13 \le x < \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2}</math>.
 Now, we find the length of the working intervals and divide it by the length of the total interval, <math>15 - 5 = 10</math>:
-<math>\begin{array*}
+<cmath>\begin{align*}
-\frac{(\frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2} - 5) + (\frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2} - 6) + (\frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2} - 13)}{10} \\
+\frac{\left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2} - 5 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2} - 6 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2} - 13 \right)}{10} \\
-= \frac{\sqrt{61} + \sqrt{109} + \sqrt{621} - 39)}{20}
+&= \frac{\sqrt{61} + \sqrt{109} + \sqrt{621} - 39}{20}
-\end{array*}</math>
+\end{align*}</cmath>
+Thus, the answer is <math>61 + 109 + 621 + 39 + 20 = \fbox{850}</math>.
+== Solution 2 ==
+Make the substitution <math>y=2x-3</math>, so <math>P(x)=\frac{y^2-45}{4}.</math> We're looking for solutions to <cmath>\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=\sqrt{\frac{\lfloor{y\rfloor}^2-45}{4}}</cmath>with the new bounds <math>y\in{[7,27]}</math>. Since the left side is an integer, it must be that <math>\frac{\lfloor{y\rfloor}^2-45}{4}</math> is a perfect square. For simplicity, write <math>\lfloor{y\rfloor}=a</math> and <cmath>a^2-45=4b^2\implies{(a-2b)(a+2b)=45}.</cmath>Since <math>a-2b<a+2b</math>, it must be that <math>(a-2b,a+2b)=(1,45),(3,15),(5,9)</math>, which gives solutions <math>(23,11),(9,3),(7,1)</math>, respectively. But this gives us three cases to check:
+Case 1: <math>\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=11</math>.
+In this case, we have <cmath>11\leq{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}}<12\implies{y\in{[23,\sqrt{621})}}.</cmath>
+Case 2: <math>\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=3</math>.
+In this case, we have <cmath>3\leq{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}}<4\implies{y\in{[9,\sqrt{109})}}.</cmath>
+Case 3: <math>\bigg\lfloor{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}\bigg\rfloor}=1</math>
+In this case, we have <cmath>1\leq{\sqrt{\frac{y^2-45}{4}}}<2\implies{y\in{[7,\sqrt{61})}}.</cmath>
+To finish, the total length of the interval from which we choose <math>y</math> is <math>27-7=20</math>. The total length of the success intervals is <cmath>(\sqrt{61}-7)+(\sqrt{109}-9)+(\sqrt{621}-23)=\sqrt{61}+\sqrt{109}+\sqrt{621}-39,</cmath>which means the probability is <cmath>\frac{\sqrt{61}+\sqrt{109}+\sqrt{621}-39}{20}.</cmath>The requested sum is <math>\boxed{850}</math>.
+== Solution 3 (Graphing) ==
+It's definitely possible to conceptualize this problem visually, if that's your thing, since it is a geometric probability problem. Let <math>A = \left\lfloor\sqrt{P(x)}\right\rfloor</math> and <math>B = \sqrt{P(\left\lfloor x \right\rfloor)}</math>. The graph of <math>A</math> and <math>B</math> will look like this, with <math>A</math> having only integral y-values and <math>B</math> having only integral x-values:
+[[File:2011 AIME II Problem 15 Graph 1.png|400px]]
+As both <math>A</math> and <math>B</math> consist of a bunch of line segments, the probability that <math>A = B</math> is the "length" of the overlap between the segments of <math>A</math> and <math>B</math> divided by the total length of the segments of <math>B</math>.
+Looking at the graph, we see that <math>A</math> and <math>B</math> will overlap only when <math>B</math> is an integer. Specifically, each region of overlap will begin when <math>\sqrt{P(x)}\ = k,  5 \le x \le 15</math> has solutions for integral <math>k</math> in the range of <math>A</math>, which consists of the integers <math>1-13</math>, and end when <math>A</math> jumps up to its next y-value.
+Using the quadratic formula, we see that the start point of each of these overlapping segments will be the integral values of <math>\frac{3 + \sqrt{45 + 4k^2}}{2}</math> for <math>k</math> in the specified range, meaning <math>45 + 4k^2</math> must be a perfect square. Plugging in all the possible values of <math>k</math>, we get <math>k = 1, 3, 11</math>, corresponding to start points of <math>x = 5, 6, 13</math>. As already stated, the endpoints will occur when <math>A</math> jumps up to the next integer <math>k+1</math> at each of these segments, at which point the x-value will be <math>\frac{3 + \sqrt{45 + 4(k+1)^2}}{2}</math>. On the graph, the overlapping segments of <math>A</math> and <math>B</math> would be represented by the highlighted green segments below:
+[[File:2011 AIME II Problem 15 Graph 2.png|400px]]
+Taking the difference between this second x-value and the start point for each of our start points <math>x = 5, 6, 13</math> and summing them will give us the total length of these green segments. We can then divide this value by ten (the total length of the segments of <math>B</math>) to give us the probability of overlap between <math>A</math> and <math>B</math>.
+Doing so gives us:
+<math>\frac{\left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{61}}{2} - 5 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{109}}{2} - 6 \right) + \left( \frac{3 + \sqrt{621}}{2} - 13 \right)}{10} = \frac{\sqrt{61} + \sqrt{109} + \sqrt{621} - 39}{20}</math>
+<math>\implies{61 + 109 + 621 + 39 + 20 = \fbox{850}}</math>.
+~ anellipticcurveoverq
+~ johnxyz1 (<math>\text\LaTeX \mathit{fixes}</math>)
+==Solution 4==
+Note that all the "bounds" have to be less than the number+1, otherwise it wouldn't fit the answer format. Therefore, the answer is <math>\frac{3*3+\sqrt{9+4(4+9)}-10+\sqrt{9+4(16+9)}-12+\sqrt{9+4(144+9)}}{20} \implies \boxed{850}</math>
+~Lcz
+==Video Solution==
+[https://youtu.be/HFW4ekFrxEg?si=Ji9OXTdR8zcPlkac 2011 AIME I #15]
+[https://mathproblemsolvingskills.wordpress.com/ MathProblemSolvingSkills.com]
+==See also==
+{{AIME box | year = 2011 | n = II | num-b=14 | after=Last Problem}}
-So the answer is <math>61 + 109 + 621 + 39 + 20 = 850</math>.
+[[Category:Intermediate Combinatorics Problems]]
+{{MAA Notice}}

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