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The director of a marching band wishes to place the members into a formation that includes all of them and has no unfilled positions. If they are arranged in a square formation, there are 5 members left over. The director realizes that if he arranges the group in a formation with 7 more rows than columns, there are no members left over. Find the maximum number of members this band can have.
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The director of a marching band wishes to place the members into a formation that includes all of them and has no unfilled positions. If they are arranged in a square formation, there are <math>5</math> members left over. The director realizes that if he arranges the group in a formation with <math>7</math> more rows than columns, there are no members left over. Find the maximum number of members this band can have.
  
 
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If <math>n > 14</math> then <math>n^2 + 6n + 14 < n^2 + 7n < n^2 + 8n + 21</math> and so <math>(n + 3)^2 + 5 < n(n + 7) < (n + 4)^2 + 5</math>.  If <math>n</math> is an [[integer]] there are no numbers which are 5 more than a [[perfect square]] strictly between <math>(n + 3)^2 + 5</math> and <math>(n + 4)^2 + 5</math>.  Thus, if the number of columns is <math>n</math>, the number of students is <math>n(n + 7)</math> which must be 5 more than a perfect square, so <math>n \leq 14</math>.  In fact, when <math>n = 14</math> we have <math>n(n + 7) = 14\cdot 21 = 294 = 17^2 + 5</math>, so this number works and no larger number can.  Thus, the answer is 294.
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If <math>n > 14</math> then <math>n^2 + 6n + 14 < n^2 + 7n < n^2 + 8n + 21</math> and so <math>(n + 3)^2 + 5 < n(n + 7) < (n + 4)^2 + 5</math>.  If <math>n</math> is an [[integer]] there are no numbers which are 5 more than a [[perfect square]] strictly between <math>(n + 3)^2 + 5</math> and <math>(n + 4)^2 + 5</math>.  Thus, if the number of columns is <math>n</math>, the number of students is <math>n(n + 7)</math> which must be 5 more than a perfect square, so <math>n \leq 14</math>.  In fact, when <math>n = 14</math> we have <math>n(n + 7) = 14\cdot 21 = 294 = 17^2 + 5</math>, so this number works and no larger number can.  Thus, the answer is <math>\boxed{294}</math>.
  
 
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Problem

The director of a marching band wishes to place the members into a formation that includes all of them and has no unfilled positions. If they are arranged in a square formation, there are $5$ members left over. The director realizes that if he arranges the group in a formation with $7$ more rows than columns, there are no members left over. Find the maximum number of members this band can have.

Solution

Solution 1

If $n > 14$ then $n^2 + 6n + 14 < n^2 + 7n < n^2 + 8n + 21$ and so $(n + 3)^2 + 5 < n(n + 7) < (n + 4)^2 + 5$. If $n$ is an integer there are no numbers which are 5 more than a perfect square strictly between $(n + 3)^2 + 5$ and $(n + 4)^2 + 5$. Thus, if the number of columns is $n$, the number of students is $n(n + 7)$ which must be 5 more than a perfect square, so $n \leq 14$. In fact, when $n = 14$ we have $n(n + 7) = 14\cdot 21 = 294 = 17^2 + 5$, so this number works and no larger number can. Thus, the answer is $\boxed{294}$.

Solution 2

Define the number of rows/columns of the square formation as $s$, and the number of rows of the rectangular formation $r$ (so there are $r - 7$ columns). Thus, $s^2 + 5 = r(r-7) \Longrightarrow r^2 - 7r - s^2 - 5 = 0$. The quadratic formula yields $r = \frac{7 \pm \sqrt{49 - 4(1)(-s - 5)}}{2} = \frac{7 \pm \sqrt{4s^2 + 69}}{2}$. $\sqrt{4s^2 + 69}$ must be an integer, say $x$. Then $4s^2 + 69 = x^2$ and $(x + 2s)(x - 2s) = 69$. The factors of $69$ are $(1,69), (3,23)$; $x$ is maximized for the first case. Thus, $x = \frac{69 + 1}{2} = 35$, and $r = \frac{7 \pm 35}{2} = 21, -14$. The latter obviously can be discarded, so there are $21$ rows and $21 - 7 = 14$ columns, making the answer $294$.

Solution 3

The number of members is $m^2+5=n(n+7)$ for some $n$ and $m$. Multiply both sides by $4$ and complete the square to get $4m^2+69=(2n+7)^2$. Thus, we have $69=((2n+7)+2m)((2n+7)-2m)$. Since we want to maximize $n$, set the first factor equal to $69$ and the second equal to $1$. Solving gives $n=14$, so the answer is $14\cdot21=294$.

See also

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