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Therefore, a sum (<math>a+b</math>) squared minus a product (<math>ab</math>) gives <math>2011</math>.. | Therefore, a sum (<math>a+b</math>) squared minus a product (<math>ab</math>) gives <math>2011</math>.. | ||
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− | We can guess and check different <math>a+b</math>’s starting with <math>45</math> since <math>44^2 < 2011</math>. | + | We can guess and check different <math>a+b</math>’s. |
+ | Note that if <math>a+b=m,</math> <math>(\frac{m}{2})^2</math> is the maximum value of <math>ab.</math> So, if the maximum value of <math>ab</math> is less than <math>(a+b)^2-2011,</math> then we know that whatever we chose for <math>a+b</math> won't work. Also, the value of <math>(a+b)^2-2011</math> increases much faster (in increments of 91, 93, e.t.c.) than the maximum value of <math>ab</math> (which increases in leaps of 23, 24, e.t.c.). So, once we've found one <math>a+b</math> such that <math>\max(ab) < (a+b)^2-2011,</math> we do not have to check any <math>a+b</math> higher than that. | ||
+ | We can quickly find that the first such <math>a+b</math> is <math>52</math> by simple trying a few numbers. | ||
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+ | So, starting with <math>45</math> since <math>44^2 < 2011</math>, we check the numbers up to <math>51.</math> | ||
<math>45^2 = 2025</math> therefore <math>ab = 2025-2011 = 14</math>. | <math>45^2 = 2025</math> therefore <math>ab = 2025-2011 = 14</math>. | ||
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<math>|-49|+10+39 = \boxed{098}</math>. | <math>|-49|+10+39 = \boxed{098}</math>. | ||
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== Solution 3 == | == Solution 3 == |
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Contents
Problem
For some integer , the polynomial has the three integer roots , , and . Find .
Solution 1
From Vieta's formulas, we know that , and . Thus . All three of , , and are non-zero: say, if , then (which is not an integer). , let . If , then and if , then . We have Thus . We know that , have the same sign. So .
Also, if we fix , is fixed, so is maximized when . Hence, So . Thus we have bounded as , i.e. since . Let's analyze . Here is a table:
We can tell we don't need to bother with ,
, So won't work. ,
is not divisible by , , which is too small to get .
, is not divisible by or or , we can clearly tell that is too much.
Hence, , . , .
Answer:
Solution 2
Starting off like the previous solution, we know that , and .
Therefore, .
Substituting, .
Factoring the perfect square, we get: or .
Therefore, a sum () squared minus a product () gives ..
We can guess and check different ’s. Note that if is the maximum value of So, if the maximum value of is less than then we know that whatever we chose for won't work. Also, the value of increases much faster (in increments of 91, 93, e.t.c.) than the maximum value of (which increases in leaps of 23, 24, e.t.c.). So, once we've found one such that we do not have to check any higher than that. We can quickly find that the first such is by simple trying a few numbers.
So, starting with since , we check the numbers up to
therefore .
Since no factors of can sum to ( being the largest sum), a + b cannot equal .
making .
and so cannot work either.
We can continue to do this until we reach .
making .
, so one root is and another is . The roots sum to zero, so the last root must be .
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Solution 3
Let us first note the obvious that is derived from Vieta's formulas: . Now, due to the first equation, let us say that , meaning that and . Now, since both and are greater than 0, their absolute values are both equal to and , respectively. Since is less than 0, it equals . Therefore, , meaning . We now apply Newton's sums to get that ,or . Solving, we find that satisfies this, meaning , so .
Solution 4
We have
As a result, we have
So,
As a result,
Solve and , where is an integer
Cause
So, after we tried for times, we get and
then ,
As a result,
Solution 5 (mod to help bash)
First, derive the equations and . Since the product is negative, is negative, and and positive. Now, a simple mod 3 testing of all cases shows that , and has the repective value. We can choose not congruent to 0, make sure you see why. Now, we bash on values of , testing the quadratic function to see if is positive. You can also use a delta argument like solution 4, but this is simpler. We get that for , . Choosing positive we get , so ~firebolt360
Solution 6
Note that , so , or . Also, , so . Substituting , we can obtain , or . If it is not known that is prime, it may be proved in minutes or so by checking all primes up to . If divided either of , then in order for to contain an extra copy of , both would need to be divisible by . But then would also be divisible by , and the sum would clearly be divisible by .
By LTE, if is divisible by and neither are divisible by . Thus, the only possibility remaining is if did not divide . Let . Then, we have . Rearranging gives . As in the above solutions, we may eliminate certain values of by using mods. Then, we may test values until we obtain , and . Thus, , , and our answer is .
Video Solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNbfAu5rdJI&t=26s ~ MathEx
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