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<math>\textbf{(A) } 4 \qquad \textbf{(B) } 7 \qquad \textbf{(C) } 8 \qquad \textbf{(D) } 11 \qquad \textbf{(E) } 13</math>
 
<math>\textbf{(A) } 4 \qquad \textbf{(B) } 7 \qquad \textbf{(C) } 8 \qquad \textbf{(D) } 11 \qquad \textbf{(E) } 13</math>
  
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==Solution==
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==Solution 1 (Properties of Logarithms)==
  
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Any logarithm in the form <math>\log_{a^b} c = \frac{1}{b} \log_a c</math>. (this can be proved easily by using change of base formula to base <math>a</math>).
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We can use the fact that <math>\log_{a^b} c = \frac{1}{b} \log_a c.</math> This can be proved by using [[change of base formula | Change of Base Formula]] to base <math>a.</math>
  
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so <cmath>\log_2{(\log_{2^4}{n})} = \log_{2^2}{(\log_{2^2}{n})}</cmath>
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So, the original equation <math>\log_2{(\log_{2^4}{n})} = \log_{2^2}{(\log_{2^2}{n})}</math> becomes <cmath>\log_2\left({\frac{1}{4}\log_{2}{n}}\right) = \frac{1}{2}\log_2\left({\frac{1}{2}\log_2{n}}\right).</cmath>
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Using log property of addition, we expand both sides and then simplify:
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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\log_2{\frac{1}{4}}+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) &= \frac{1}{2}\left[\log_2{\frac{1}{2}} +\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}\right] \\
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\log_2{\frac{1}{4}}+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) &= \frac{1}{2}\left[-1 +\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}\right] \\
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-2+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) &= -\frac{1}{2}+ \frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}).
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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Subtracting <math>\frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})})</math> from both sides and adding <math>2</math> to both sides gives us <cmath>\frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}) = \frac{3}{2}.</cmath>
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Multiplying by <math>2,</math> exponentiating, and simplifying gives us
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})} &= 3 \\
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\log_2{n}&=8 \\
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n&=256.
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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Adding the digits together, we have <math>2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.</math>  
  
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becomes
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~quacker88 (Solution)
  
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<cmath>\log_2({\frac{1}{4}\log_{2}{n}}) = \frac{1}{2}\log_2({\frac{1}{2}\log_2{n}})</cmath>
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~MRENTHUSIASM (Reformatting)
  
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Using <math>\log</math> property of addition, we can expand the parentheses into
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==Solution 2 (Properties of Logarithms)==
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We will apply the following logarithmic identity:
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<cmath>\log_{p^k}{q^k}=\log_{p}{q},</cmath>
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which can be proven by the [[change of base formula | Change of Base Formula]]: <cmath>\log_{p^k}{q^k}=\frac{\log_{p}{q^k}}{\log_{p}{p^k}}=\frac{k\log_{p}{q}}{k}=\log_{p}{q}.</cmath>
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Note that <math>\log_{16}{n}\neq0,</math> so we rewrite the original equation as follows:
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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\log_4{(\log_{16}{n})^2}&=\log_4{(\log_4{n})} \\
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(\log_{16}{n})^2&=\log_4{n} \\
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(\log_{16}{n})^2&=\log_{16}{n^2} \\
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(\log_{16}{n})^2&=2\log_{16}{n} \\
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\log_{16}{n}&=2,
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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from which <math>n=16^2=256.</math> The sum of its digits is <math>2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.</math>
  
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<cmath>\log_2{(\frac{1}{4})}+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) = \frac{1}{2}(\log_2{(\frac{1}{2})} +\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})})</cmath>
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~MRENTHUSIASM
  
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Expanding the RHS and simplifying the logs without variables, we have
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==Solution 3 (Properties of Logarithms)==
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Using the change of base formula on the RHS of the initial equation yields
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<cmath>-2+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) = -\frac{1}{2}+ \frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})})</cmath>
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<cmath> \log_2{(\log_{16}{n})} = \frac{\log_2{(\log_4{n})}}{\log_2{4}}. </cmath>
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This means we can multiply each side by <math>2</math> for
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Subtracting <math>\frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})})</math> from both sides and adding <math>2</math> to both sides gives us
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<cmath> \log_2{(\log_{16}{n})^2} = \log_2{(\log_4{n})}. </cmath>
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Canceling out the logs gives
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<cmath>\frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}) = \frac{3}{2}</cmath>
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<cmath> (\log_{16}{n})^2=\log_4{n}. </cmath>
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We use change of base on the RHS to see that
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Multiplying by <math>2</math>, raising the logs to exponents of base <math>2</math> to get rid of the logs and simplifying gives us
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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(\log_{16}{n})^2&=\frac{ \log_{16}{n}}{\log_{16}{4}} \\
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<cmath>(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}) = 3</cmath>
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(\log_{16}{n})^2&=2 \log_{16}{n}.
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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<cmath>2^{\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}} = 2^3</cmath>
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Substituting in <math> m = \log_{16}{n} </math> gives <math> m^2=2m, </math> so <math> m </math> is either <math>0</math> or <math>2.</math> Since <math> m=0 </math> yields no solution for <math>n</math> (since this would lead to use taking the log of <math>0</math>), we get <math> 2 = \log_{16}{n}, </math> or <math> n=16^2=256, </math> for the digit-sum of <math>2 + 5 + 6 = \boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.</math>
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<cmath>\log_2{n}=8</cmath>
 
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<cmath>2^{\log_2{n}}=2^8</cmath>
 
  
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<cmath>n=256</cmath>
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~aop2014
  
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Adding the digits together, we have <math>2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) }13}</math> ~quacker88
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==Solution 4 (Exponential Form)==
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Suppose <math>\log_2(\log_{16}n)=k\implies\log_{16}n=2^k\implies n=16^{2^k}.</math> Similarly, we have <math>\log_4(\log_4 n)=k\implies \log_4 n=4^k\implies n=4^{4^k}.</math> Thus, we have <cmath>16^{2^k}=(4^2)^{2^k}=4^{2^{k+1}}</cmath> and <cmath>4^{4^k}=4^{2^{2k}},</cmath> so <math>k+1=2k\implies k=1.</math> Plugging this in to either one of the expressions for <math>n</math> gives <math>256</math>, and the requested answer is <math>2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.</math>
  
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==Solution 2==
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==Solution 5 (Guess and Check)==
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We know that, as the answer is an integer, <math>n</math> must be some power of <math>16</math>. Testing <math>16</math> yields
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We know that, as the answer is an integer, <math>n</math> must be some power of <math>16.</math> Testing <math>16</math> yields
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<cmath> \log_2{(\log_{16}{16})} = \log_4{(\log_4{16})} </cmath>
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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<cmath> \log_2{1} = \log_4{2}</cmath>
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\log_2{(\log_{16}{16})} &= \log_4{(\log_4{16})} \\
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<cmath> 0 = \frac{1}{2}</cmath>
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\log_2{1} &= \log_4{2} \\
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which does not work. We then try <math>256</math>, giving us
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0 &= \frac{1}{2},
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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<cmath> \log_2{(\log_{16}{256})} = \log_4{(\log_4{256})} </cmath>
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which does not work. We then try <math>256,</math> giving us
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<cmath> \log_2{2} = \log_4{4}</cmath>
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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<cmath> 1 = 1 </cmath>
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\log_2{(\log_{16}{256})} &= \log_4{(\log_4{256})} \\
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which holds true. Thus, <math>n = 256</math>, so the answer is <math>2 + 5 + 6 = \boxed{\textbf{(E) }13}</math>.
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\log_2{2} &= \log_4{4} \\
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1 &= 1,
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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which holds true. Thus, <math>n = 256,</math> so the answer is <math>2 + 5 + 6 = \boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.</math>
  
 
(Don't use this technique unless you absolutely need to! Guess and check methods aren't helpful for learning math.)
 
(Don't use this technique unless you absolutely need to! Guess and check methods aren't helpful for learning math.)
  
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~ciceronii
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~ciceronii (Solution)
  
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~MRENTHUSIASM (Reformatting)
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==Solution 3-Change of Base==
 
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Using the change of base formula on the RHS of the initial equation yields
 
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<cmath> \log_2{(\log_{16}{n})} = \frac{\log_2{(\log_4{n})}}{\log_2{4}} </cmath>
 
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This means we can multiply each side by 2 for
 
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<cmath> \log_2{(\log_{16}{n})^2} = \log_2{(\log_4{n})} </cmath>
 
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Canceling out the logs gives
 
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<cmath> (\log_{16}{n})^2=\log_4{n} </cmath>
 
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We use change of base on the RHS to see that <cmath> (\log_{16}{n})^2=\frac{ \log_{16}{n}}{\log_{16}{4}} </cmath> or <cmath> (\log_{16}{n})^2= 2 \log_{16}{n}</cmath> Substituting in <math> m = \log_{16}{n} </math> gives <math> m^2=2m </math>, so <math> m </math> is either <math>0</math> or <math>2</math>. Since <math> m=0 </math> yields no solution for <math>n</math>(since this would lead to use taking the log of <math>0</math>), we get <math> 2 = \log_{16}{n} </math>, or <math> n=16^2=256 </math>, for a sum of <math>2 + 5 + 6 = \boxed{\textbf{(E) }13}</math>. ~aop2014
 
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==Solution 4==
 
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Suppose <math>\log_2(\log_{16}n)=k\implies\log_{16}n=2^k\implies n=16^{2^k}.</math> Similarly, we have <math>\log_4(\log_4 n)=k\implies \log_4 n=4^k\implies n=4^{4^k}.</math> Thus, we have <cmath>16^{2^k}=(4^2)^{2^k}=4^{2^{k+1}}</cmath> and <cmath>4^{4^k}=4^{2^{2k}},</cmath> so <math>k+1=2k\implies k=1.</math> Plugging this in to either one of the expressions for <math>n</math> gives <math>256</math>, and the requested answer is <math>2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) }13}.</math>
 
  
 
==Video Solution==
 
==Video Solution==
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~IceMatrix
 
~IceMatrix
  
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== Video Solution ==
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== Video Solution by OmegaLearn ==
 
https://youtu.be/RdIIEhsbZKw?t=814
 
https://youtu.be/RdIIEhsbZKw?t=814
  
 
~ pi_is_3.14
 
~ pi_is_3.14
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==Video Solution==
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https://youtu.be/EnyzIHcJ8Aw
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~Education, the Study of Everything
  
 
==See Also==
 
==See Also==

Latest revision as of 10:30, 12 September 2024

Problem

There is a unique positive integer $n$ such that\[\log_2{(\log_{16}{n})} = \log_4{(\log_4{n})}.\]What is the sum of the digits of $n?$

$\textbf{(A) } 4 \qquad \textbf{(B) } 7 \qquad \textbf{(C) } 8 \qquad \textbf{(D) } 11 \qquad \textbf{(E) } 13$

Solution 1 (Properties of Logarithms)

We can use the fact that $\log_{a^b} c = \frac{1}{b} \log_a c.$ This can be proved by using Change of Base Formula to base $a.$

So, the original equation $\log_2{(\log_{2^4}{n})} = \log_{2^2}{(\log_{2^2}{n})}$ becomes \[\log_2\left({\frac{1}{4}\log_{2}{n}}\right) = \frac{1}{2}\log_2\left({\frac{1}{2}\log_2{n}}\right).\] Using log property of addition, we expand both sides and then simplify: \begin{align*} \log_2{\frac{1}{4}}+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) &= \frac{1}{2}\left[\log_2{\frac{1}{2}} +\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}\right] \\ \log_2{\frac{1}{4}}+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) &= \frac{1}{2}\left[-1 +\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}\right] \\ -2+\log_2{(\log_{2}{n}}) &= -\frac{1}{2}+ \frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}). \end{align*} Subtracting $\frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})})$ from both sides and adding $2$ to both sides gives us \[\frac{1}{2}(\log_{2}{(\log_2{n})}) = \frac{3}{2}.\] Multiplying by $2,$ exponentiating, and simplifying gives us \begin{align*} \log_{2}{(\log_2{n})} &= 3 \\ \log_2{n}&=8 \\ n&=256. \end{align*} Adding the digits together, we have $2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.$

~quacker88 (Solution)

~MRENTHUSIASM (Reformatting)

Solution 2 (Properties of Logarithms)

We will apply the following logarithmic identity: \[\log_{p^k}{q^k}=\log_{p}{q},\] which can be proven by the Change of Base Formula: \[\log_{p^k}{q^k}=\frac{\log_{p}{q^k}}{\log_{p}{p^k}}=\frac{k\log_{p}{q}}{k}=\log_{p}{q}.\] Note that $\log_{16}{n}\neq0,$ so we rewrite the original equation as follows: \begin{align*} \log_4{(\log_{16}{n})^2}&=\log_4{(\log_4{n})} \\ (\log_{16}{n})^2&=\log_4{n} \\ (\log_{16}{n})^2&=\log_{16}{n^2} \\ (\log_{16}{n})^2&=2\log_{16}{n} \\ \log_{16}{n}&=2, \end{align*} from which $n=16^2=256.$ The sum of its digits is $2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.$

~MRENTHUSIASM

Solution 3 (Properties of Logarithms)

Using the change of base formula on the RHS of the initial equation yields \[\log_2{(\log_{16}{n})} = \frac{\log_2{(\log_4{n})}}{\log_2{4}}.\] This means we can multiply each side by $2$ for \[\log_2{(\log_{16}{n})^2} = \log_2{(\log_4{n})}.\] Canceling out the logs gives \[(\log_{16}{n})^2=\log_4{n}.\] We use change of base on the RHS to see that \begin{align*} (\log_{16}{n})^2&=\frac{ \log_{16}{n}}{\log_{16}{4}} \\ (\log_{16}{n})^2&=2 \log_{16}{n}. \end{align*} Substituting in $m = \log_{16}{n}$ gives $m^2=2m,$ so $m$ is either $0$ or $2.$ Since $m=0$ yields no solution for $n$ (since this would lead to use taking the log of $0$), we get $2 = \log_{16}{n},$ or $n=16^2=256,$ for the digit-sum of $2 + 5 + 6 = \boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.$

~aop2014

Solution 4 (Exponential Form)

Suppose $\log_2(\log_{16}n)=k\implies\log_{16}n=2^k\implies n=16^{2^k}.$ Similarly, we have $\log_4(\log_4 n)=k\implies \log_4 n=4^k\implies n=4^{4^k}.$ Thus, we have \[16^{2^k}=(4^2)^{2^k}=4^{2^{k+1}}\] and \[4^{4^k}=4^{2^{2k}},\] so $k+1=2k\implies k=1.$ Plugging this in to either one of the expressions for $n$ gives $256$, and the requested answer is $2+5+6=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.$

Solution 5 (Guess and Check)

We know that, as the answer is an integer, $n$ must be some power of $16.$ Testing $16$ yields \begin{align*} \log_2{(\log_{16}{16})} &= \log_4{(\log_4{16})} \\ \log_2{1} &= \log_4{2} \\ 0 &= \frac{1}{2}, \end{align*} which does not work. We then try $256,$ giving us \begin{align*} \log_2{(\log_{16}{256})} &= \log_4{(\log_4{256})} \\ \log_2{2} &= \log_4{4} \\ 1 &= 1, \end{align*} which holds true. Thus, $n = 256,$ so the answer is $2 + 5 + 6 = \boxed{\textbf{(E) } 13}.$

(Don't use this technique unless you absolutely need to! Guess and check methods aren't helpful for learning math.)

~ciceronii (Solution)

~MRENTHUSIASM (Reformatting)

Video Solution

https://youtu.be/fzZzGqNqW6U

~IceMatrix

Video Solution by OmegaLearn

https://youtu.be/RdIIEhsbZKw?t=814

~ pi_is_3.14

Video Solution

https://youtu.be/EnyzIHcJ8Aw

~Education, the Study of Everything

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